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Intro:content

Side 1:strength and weaknesses:treason one

Side 2:strength and weaknesses

Conclusion: who won and why

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Due Wednesday

Debate Notes:

Side 1:

-Caesar crossed Rubicon and committed treason

-treason penalty is death

-before crossing he said the die is cast which means the choice he made is permanant

-the law they passed protected them from internal military threat

-diserved to die because treason can be punished by death

-before he crossed he new he would be stripped of commands and be prosecuted

-Caesar new he was doing something wrong but did it anyway

Main:

-caesar was a self glorified dictator

-strictly hungry for more power and land

-he knew what he was doing was wrong

-knwe the gov. set up laws so they couldn't take military force across rubicon into rome

-he denied orders and took a legion with him is 6000 of less military people

-disobeyed orders and deserved to die

-looking to get more power and go around laws

-he found a way to get around the rules and he didn't and payed for it

-supposed to return back to home city and disband but crossed rubicon with military

Points:

-Caesar knew he was doing something wrong

-started in 50 bc with pompey when he orderd caesar to disband and go back to rome

-instead of going back he took his army striaght to the rubicon

-crossing rubicon with force is treason

-when he was crossing he said dye is cast so it means he knew he was doing something wrong but didn't care and was going to do it anyway

-he started civil war and committed treason so he deserved to die

-knowing all along what your doing is wrong is a terrible thing

Rebuttle:

-he invaded rome and killed thousands of their citizens

-he was basically a dictator and no one had a say in him being ruler

-he pushed through a land bill for the poor that was all ready being worked on so he stole the idea and claimed it as his own

-he took his own personal money and gave it to people so people would like him

-he saved money throught corrupt taxes

-he was liked because he gave out his own money

-caesar was waging war most of the time and really wasn't helping people

-he broke an ancient roman law which was treason

-very aggressive person

-was very selfish

-Rubicon was his way of starting a rebellion

-treason is punished with prosecution and death

-betrayed his own country

Side 2:

-Julius caesar deserve to die and the assasins were motivated by greed and desire

-Did not deserve to die

-He helped out people of Rome

-Usually leaders don't care about poor but he did

-most Romans liked him

-friend Brutus turned people against him-brutus was back stabbing liar

-no one ever deserves to die

-people should have just over ruled him instead of killed him

Main:

-proving him innocent

-he deserved to be ruler he helped saved money and cared for poor people and didn't except the crown

-not excepting the crown means he didn't want power that bad

-he reconstitionized the courts and number of senators

-After he was murdered Rome went into chaos

-most of Rome liked Caesar

-Brutus killed Caesar because of Greed

-Caesar took ransom money and put it in the good of Rome

-spend time helping poor

-believed poor are as good as the rich

-after serving in the roman army he got a interest in politics

-he didn't take away the senates wealth

-Caesar was murdered by politicians b/c they think he was obssesed with his own importance and were jealous of Caesar

Rebuttle:

-caesar did not deserve to die

-everyone did one wrong thing

-what he did wasn't that bad

-what he did wasn't that bad because he was going to go to jail anyway

-he wasn't a terrible person

-he refused the crown and helped the poor

-him wanting more land was going to be used for the people of Rome

-he was intellegent and used his intellegence for rome

-didn't have a choice because he was put in that position

-he didn't deserve to die for one wrong thing

main reasons:

-he refused the crown so he didn't have a great desire for power

-gave money to rome...spent his money to better Rome

-he cared for the poor... respected everyone from Rome

-he did only one bad thing wrong

-murdered by politicians

 

 

 

 

 

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