The big question that has always been is “what existed before the big bang”? The answer is nothing, as the universe is still nothing. How can this be you might ask? Scientist know that virtual particles come into existence from nothing all of the time. They contain a very small amount of energy and exist for a very small amount of energy. Using the Inflation theory the energy and the lifespan of the virtual particle is infinitely magnified, resulting in our 13.8 billion year old univers. The question “How did the universe come from nothing?” is all wrong. The universe is still nothing, it is just a more elegantly ordered nothing. The negative gravitational energy of the universe and the positive energy mater of the universe balance out leaving a sum of 0 or nothing. From this theory physicist said there is no need for a god figure to kick start the universe. He's done you just don’t need him.
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1- With new factual finding, doesn’t that mean that your religion is meaningless?
First of all I’m agnostic. And in my view these findings make all religion meaningless. Throughout history there have been countless religions all stemming from different environments and other factors. If you destroyed all evidence of current day religions the religions that would come after would have nothing in common to the ones today. But if you destroyed all traces of today's science books the books that would come about later would be the same. Because science can be tested and verified unlike religion.
2- If the universe never needed a creator. Why did man create god in is own image?
Because humans have a need to feel superior. And throughout history people have used their religion as a way of power against others. It’s a case of my god is bigger than your god syndrome.
3- With theis new findings. How can you justify your belief in creationism?
If there is no creator. How can there be creationism? In other words simply, you can’t. Therefore evaluation becomes the only logical choice. Belief in fantasy never outways the facts of science.
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Excellent job! One of the best deep discussions we've ever had on here. Be sure to always be respectful. You were for the most part, but calling people "hun" and "uneducated darling" aren't needed. Overall, though, with a controversial topic such as this, it wen very well!
1. Well I don't know if it meaning less because other people may find something tf or a come back with this finding.
2. Maybe they didn't create a God maybe the God create everything and make thing myseries.
3. No I can't Justify my belif because I can't explain it.
3. Why should these theories be considered to be so much more justified than other theories? Why is this one so special when it's actually one of the "known" theories with very little support? A religious person would still believe in creationism because in typical cases, it's what he or she has grown up believing.
Your religion is doesn't even qualify as a theory so it can't even stand ground to this or any other theory. A theory has to be able to be tested repeatedly and come out with the same results if it been so then there wouldn't be so meany religions. Its not above another theory because all theories are created with the understanding proving that its valid, there are tests that can be proved to go even deeper and build on it. Unlike religion. Creationism is not even a true theory so it has no grounding here. Evolution on the other had is a true theory and has backing. If you don't know how the science world works even into days age it can be hard to get information out and spread thus is why it doesn't have a large backing.
2. Let me just tell you how incorrect this question is to begin with. GOD created MAN in his own image (according to Christian belief). I don't understand how people can just say that God isn't real without being educated. You say you're agnostic, but everything you're implying has atheist written all over it.
Yes this story points to the fact that there probably isn't a god at all, and i'm simply not willing to say whether or not there is or is not a god but this story pushes me more to the atheist side Don't even get me started. Uneducated darling have you done any actual research into your own religion, have you read more than just what your pastor has dripp fed you? The main reason people claim that god isn't educated is because they have read cover to cover what the bible said. Educating themselves on the so called “word of god”. The current opinion of most researchers is that Jesus NEVER existed. The Romans have no record of him or even something to suggest his existence. There is no record of him that has not been proven to be falsified.
Be sure to always stay repectful.
1. With this question, you could argue that everything people are interested in is meaningless. If you're Christian, your religion is based on events where God communicates with people to spread His word, so if religion was somehow erased right now, God would start over. That's from a Christian point of view.
Your last sentence is pretty contradictory to your stance. The scientists "prove" that God didn't create the universe, but religion can't be "tested and verified". Isn't that basically saying that you can't test religion, but you believe that this proves it's meaningless?
Also, NOTHING can technically be proved or disproved in science. The same thing goes for religion because it all comes down to your beliefs.
If god wanted people to believe in him and BE unquestioned then why are there so meany different forms? Why hasn't he set the line straight as to what HIS word is? Not to mention why are there so meany different religions that came into play and have existed a lot longer than any form of Christianity. And yes most things people are interested in is meaningless. My point with the last one is that science has more than just opinion to back it up. Whereas religion only has opinion and 'faith' to back it up along with falsified “articles”. Science can be proven whereas religion can NOT.
Religion is what you believe and scientific discoveries don't have to change that. I don't think science can alter my beliefs in any way they are just trivial facts you can choose to believe or not.
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